If you would like to help keep this site going please
AS THIS IS A FREE FORUM ADVERTS FROM THE SERVICE PROVIDER APPEAR TO THE RIGHT OF THIS NOTICE AND THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THIS SITE.
Services Menu
PURCHASE BOOKS DISCUSSEDIf you have heard about a book in this forum and would now like to read it yourself Astrodene has brought together links to purchase them. Links are available for the UK, USA, Canada, Austalia and New Zealand
ASSOCIATED WEB SITE
ARTICLES OF WAR (Forum rules)
FUTURE RELEASES CALENDAR
IMAGES GALLERY
VIDEO CHANNEL
SUBSCRIBE TO NEWSLETTER
Search
Latest topics
Latest News on the Web Site
Loading...
Use of Cookies
By using this site, you agree we can set and use cookies. For more details of these cookies and how to disable them, see our cookie policy.Stockton vs Allday
5 posters
Page 1 of 1
Stockton vs Allday
I'm rereading the Bolitho series. I'm on "To Glory We Steer" now. Allday is being introduced. I'm just wondering why the changing of the guard, so to speak.
My guess is that Stockton is just a little too two dimensional. Kent realized that Bolitho needs more of an equal, not just someone who followed him around like a "dog".
I just don't understand why he didn't expand Stockton. He's not stupid. He's very sensitive to Bolitho's needs. He can think for himself (as evidenced by his exploits while in captivity on the Andiron). I just didn't get it.
My guess is that Stockton is just a little too two dimensional. Kent realized that Bolitho needs more of an equal, not just someone who followed him around like a "dog".
I just don't understand why he didn't expand Stockton. He's not stupid. He's very sensitive to Bolitho's needs. He can think for himself (as evidenced by his exploits while in captivity on the Andiron). I just didn't get it.
DasBoot- Leading Seaman
- Log Entries : 18
Location : Texas
Joined : 2010-01-13
Re: Stockton vs Allday
Perhaps to reflect the reality that many relationships are not permanent in the service?
reb01501- Vice-Admiral of the Blue
- Log Entries : 670
Age : 69
Location : Florida
Joined : 2008-12-19
Re: Stockton vs Allday
I agree with reb, series that kill off the odd main character are probably more true to life. After all
And whilst it's quite a few years since I read the series I think the name was Stockdale?
- Spoiler:
- even Bolitho himself does not survive to the end of the series]
And whilst it's quite a few years since I read the series I think the name was Stockdale?
Re: Stockton vs Allday
It was. And I think it should be mentioned that To Glory We Steer was actually the first book written, even if chronologically it was the fifth.
Doctor Fred- Second Lieutenant
- Log Entries : 260
Age : 89
Location : White Oaks
Joined : 2012-01-20
Re: Stockton vs Allday
Actually I see Allday as a 1:1 replacement of the earlier Stockdale in his role as the sidekick, with a bit more of a valet/coxwain hybrid role.
reb01501 wrote:Perhaps to reflect the reality that many relationships are not permanent in the service?
Actually Kent is the author who is in the worst way guilty to deny this fact of the profession of these sea captains under sail.
I can totally understand that a writer prefers to use a known ensemble of characters, growing very attached to those characters, but the way how the proteges around Bolitho take the main roles in Bolitho`s squadrons year after year is a bit boring after a while. One thing I like about the genre is how a variety of different strangers are shoved into a ship or squadron and then they have to struggle form a team (more or less) to make the machinery work efficiently (more or less) to solve problems.
If it's always the same characters year after year it seriously detracts from my enjoyment as a reader.
And even if an admiral probably had some choice whom he wanted for flag captain or in his squadron (or captain his lieutenants), I can't imagine that it was to possible to grant these wishes to this extent as it is written in some of the genre.
In fact, Bush began to grate on my nerves in The Commodore.
Chromedust- Petty Officer
- Log Entries : 31
Location : Germany
Joined : 2017-01-02
Re: Stockton vs Allday
Stockton? I must be going senile early, please forgive me...lol
I get what you guys are saying, but this is so early in the series. And its almost if "To Glory We Steer" was written just to bring in Allday.
I guess I'm comparing it to the death of Barrett Bonden in the Aubry/Maturin series. That felt totally different. More like what you are suggesting, Reb.
I get what you guys are saying, but this is so early in the series. And its almost if "To Glory We Steer" was written just to bring in Allday.
I guess I'm comparing it to the death of Barrett Bonden in the Aubry/Maturin series. That felt totally different. More like what you are suggesting, Reb.
DasBoot- Leading Seaman
- Log Entries : 18
Location : Texas
Joined : 2010-01-13
Re: Stockton vs Allday
DasBoot wrote:its almost if "To Glory We Steer" was written just to bring in Allday
As Doctor Fred pointed out TGWS was the first book written. As I said it's a long time since I read them but if he introduces Allday in it as a replacement then when he comes to write the back story he needs someone to be replaced. And he "didn't expand Stockton" because he only wrote a few back story books and new his end was nigh. He just wrote a totally different type to introduce variety in his series
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
|
|
Sat 21 Sep 2024, 17:49 by broughstar
» Doctor in the house
Wed 19 Jun 2024, 04:26 by TonnerreDeBrest
» Julian Stockwin discussion
Sat 13 Apr 2024, 15:17 by pauljm
» Not so much Hornblower....
Wed 03 Apr 2024, 11:21 by broughstar
» Someone Write a Biography of Richard Bolitho!
Thu 12 Oct 2023, 16:51 by 80 Winters
» What would you like the next book to cover?
Thu 12 Oct 2023, 08:19 by Port of Olcott
» Douglas Reeman is dying
Thu 12 Oct 2023, 06:56 by Port of Olcott
» Alexander Kent general discussion.
Thu 05 Oct 2023, 22:51 by jkeffer
» A Horatio Hornblower Short Story as Written by ChatGPT
Tue 11 Apr 2023, 01:00 by TonnerreDeBrest